[mrmichaelt]

A lot of Peter's dialogue was cut from the Peter-Nadeem interview

Quote: "REID: The Venkman/Nadeem scene with the pasta strainer on his head. Nadeem getting more and more upset - and the fire behind him is starting to ignite. What was really hard about the scene was that there was quite a bit of dialogue cut out of it. In the script, Venkman is only supposed to throw the pen at Nadeem once, but because Bill does it in different ways and do them at different times, when you took some of the dialogue out you still needed to convey what’s happening with the fire."

Boris FX

[tylergfoster]

Sometimes they film stuff that's only ever intended for the trailers, and I'm willing to bet the rooftop sequence was just that.

Another possibility is that they had planned to do some outside stuff, and then they realized they had to change their plan because the budget wouldn't allow for it.

Frankly, I think the frozen city should've been cut since it was probably quite expensive and yet it makes for one of the movie's most inexplicable bits in terms of how people reacted to it.

[gerard55]

Sometimes they film stuff that's only ever intended for the trailers, and I'm willing to bet the rooftop sequence was just that.

Maybe, maybe not, we'll probably never know. Still doesn't really detract from my point that the marketing for this movie was deceptive, it basically made a movie that was quite small in scope look much larger than it really was. IMO there was a battle in the editing room to get this movie under 2 hours (probably mandated by Sony) and the final result is quite obviously missing some things. Though Gil Kenan has implied there were only "a couple of deleted scenes", remains to be seen what gets released and what Sony will want to drip feed over the decades like they did with the original 2 movies.

Another possibility is that they had planned to do some outside stuff, and then they realized they had to change their plan because the budget wouldn't allow for it.

That's where my money would be, they done some initial shots for a kind of exploration of the frozen city sequence, realised they hadn't got the cash to do it properly, then scaled things back substantially.

All I know is IF there's any future movies (and that's dubious given the current box office) I'm gonna take the trailers with a truckload of salt after the FE trailers\marketing.

[mrmichaelt]

The 1904 firefighters had more scenes it seems. Brandon Burke, one of the firefighters, replied on his instagram "my part got cut way down in the edit"

https://www.instagram.com/mrbrandonburke/p/C42tMBeo4SD/
https://www.instagram.com/p/C42tMBeo4SD ... 40552479/

[tylergfoster]

The 1904 firefighters had more scenes it seems. Brandon Burke, one of the firefighters, replied on his instagram "my part got cut way down in the edit"

https://www.instagram.com/mrbrandonburke/p/C42tMBeo4SD/
https://www.instagram.com/p/C42tMBeo4SD ... 40552479/

I would say I doubt there were more scenes with the firefighters, just that the existing sequence was a longer, although that may be splitting hairs. I noticed in my one viewing, for example, that the movie basically cuts around whatever happens to the guy whose hand gets frozen, although he remains visible among the group. Seems likely to guess that there was a brief moment where he got it wrapped up before they proceeded.

[starang11]

There was a period where a small movie could underperform theatrically and make enough money on video to turn into a franchise.

A great example of that is Austin Powers, first one did $53 million domestic, the second $206 million domestic. Just totally caught on fire once it hit video

[tylergfoster]

There was a period where a small movie could underperform theatrically and make enough money on video to turn into a franchise.

A great example of that is Austin Powers, first one did $53 million domestic, the second $206 million domestic. Just totally caught on fire once it hit video

Another notable example was Harold & Kumar. It did respectably in theaters, grossing $24.3m against a $9m budget, so, pretty close to the 3x math on a movie that no doubt had no notable back-end deals, but then it did even more than that on DVD, with Wikipedia saying that by 2008 it had grossed $30.6m on video.

[mrmichaelt]

Kevin Mangold says mostly all of what he filmed as Slimer made it into the movie but hints one thing that was cut involved Slimer's tongue "all coming out and stuff." (1:15:20-1:15:29)
https://extraplasm.podbean.com/e/episod ... en-empire/

[tylergfoster]

Kevin Mangold says mostly all of what he filmed as Slimer made it into the movie but hints one thing that was cut involved Slimer's tongue "all coming out and stuff." (1:15:20-1:15:29)
https://extraplasm.podbean.com/e/episod ... en-empire/

Based on the description here (not the podcast, which my work computer won't let me pull up), I immediately think of Slimer gobbling up Winston's burger in the "Real Ghostbusters" intro.

[mrmichaelt]

Based on the description here (not the podcast, which my work computer won't let me pull up), I immediately think of Slimer gobbling up Winston's burger in the "Real Ghostbusters" intro.

In the Report All Ghosts! interview with Kevin Mangold, he gave a hint at the 49:38 mark. The scene involves Slimer licking someone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAoB9E72W9Q



That reminds of Slimer sliming Janine in the initial title sequence of RGB. Trevor seems like a logical guess. But man, would it be cool if it's Mayor Peck at the end of the movie in front of everyone.

[mrmichaelt]

https://extraplasm.podbean.com/e/episod ... whitelock/

1:45:30 mark, there was a bit at the end of the movie with Winston and Ray surveying the damage done to the Firehouse.

[tylergfoster]

Only 5 deleted scenes on the digital. Better than Afterlife, but still pretty thin. (Don't really think there's any reason to expect more on the disc.)

EDIT: 6, the site article is missing "I Am a Doctor."

[Chicken, He Clucked]

Didn’t Gil say we were getting lots of deleted scenes?

Ah well, we’ll take the scraps we’re given!

[mrmichaelt]

Didn’t Gil say we were getting lots of deleted scenes?

Ah well, we’ll take the scraps we’re given!

Six is better than one.

[Kingpin]

Didn’t Gil say we were getting lots of deleted scenes?

It is a lot compared to the "feast" we were given with Afterlife.

[tylergfoster]

Didn’t Gil say we were getting lots of deleted scenes?

No. Despite there clearly being lots of deleted scenes from the movie, Gil actually claimed there were not many deleted scenes to begin with.

Anyway, I watched them, and yeah, it's pretty thin:

"Ghost Chopper" (2:51) - The "literally scared to death" scene from the trailers. Mostly exposition, but they play up the revelation that capturing ghosts and putting them in the containment unit has been "unwittingly helping Garakka" by fulfilling part of an ancient prophecy. Despite what one might think from the title, "Ghost Chopper" refers not to a helicopter but Trevor suggesting they should have something like a garbage disposal for ghosts.
"Headlines" (1:19) - A trimmed opening to the attic scene with Trevor briefly pausing to look at the magazines in the attic (closeup of Egon on TIME from the original movie).
"I Am a Doctor" (1:11) - Not much more to this than was in the trailers, although the Murray joke is slightly different, and there was a bit with the ice re-growing (that was never animated).
"News Report" (1:04) - The gang gathers round and watches a news report on the computer before the finale. Phosphor and Pukey are both named in the dialogue.
"Rooftop Consolation" (1:49) - Trevor gets self-conscious on the roof about his role in the group. Arguably ties back to the magazine bit from "Headlines."
"Slime Bath" (1:00) - Mostly the scene from the movie, but there's a little extra bit of Lars writhing on around on the ground in the aftermath of Pukey's barf.

[joezlo]

Okay, somebody make a super cut!

[Chicken, He Clucked]

I mean if they fit within the continuity of the movie may as well have released an extended cut, but happy we got some!

[SpaceBallz]

"Headlines" (1:19) - A trimmed opening to the attic scene with Trevor briefly pausing to look at the magazines in the attic (closeup of Egon on TIME from the original movie).

"Rooftop Consolation" (1:49) - Trevor gets self-conscious on the roof about his role in the group. Arguably ties back to the magazine bit from "Headlines."

It's that kind of character stuff that would have made this movie better.

[tylergfoster]

"Headlines" (1:19) - A trimmed opening to the attic scene with Trevor briefly pausing to look at the magazines in the attic (closeup of Egon on TIME from the original movie).

"Rooftop Consolation" (1:49) - Trevor gets self-conscious on the roof about his role in the group. Arguably ties back to the magazine bit from "Headlines."

It's that kind of character stuff that would have made this movie better.

The first one is a shrug but it definitely feels like they could've kept the second one in the movie, and it would've at least paid lip service to the idea of an arc.

[Chicken, He Clucked]

Will reserve judgment but calling back to the TIME cover feels a bit too much, like those moments in Afterlife. Was probably wise to cut it.

[tylergfoster]

Rewatching the movie and I would definitely say that the deleted "Ghost Chopper" scene is at least in part replaced by the scene of Nadeem downstairs, lighting the candle at Janine's desk, because just a few minutes later, he's back upstairs sitting at the same table he was previously, and in the following scene when he asks "could one of the adults also come and help?" I also felt like, at a glance, everyone's hair had a "reshoot" sort of look to it.

EDIT: Another scene or two that may have gone: In the comments of a Letterboxd review, a user that seems to have seen or talked to someone who attended a test screening says that two scenes with Phoebe and Melody were cut from the film in which they try to hold hands. They said the way the movie is edited now, it makes it seem like Phoebe only wants to become a ghost for scientific reasons, but originally it was because they could not hold hands with Phoebe still being alive.

[Chicken, He Clucked]

Interesting cuts, hope the scenes surface someday. Maybe suggests there were nerves about the nature of Phoebe and Melody’s relationship.

The theatrical version works but some people felt it was out of character for Phoebe - hard to know if these scenes might alter that.

[mike_waclo]

There's also the contradiction in that Callie was able to hug Egon at the end of Afterlife, so maybe it didn't make sense that they couldn't hold hands in-universe?

[mrmichaelt]

There's also the contradiction in that Callie was able to hug Egon at the end of Afterlife, so maybe it didn't make sense that they couldn't hold hands in-universe?

I feel dumb for suggesting this but 'Egon's ghost wasn't on fire so it was ok for a hug with a human' could be the reason?

[mike_waclo]

I feel dumb for suggesting this but 'Egon's ghost wasn't on fire so it was ok for a hug with a human' could be the reason?

Oh, yeah... maybe! I think in my head, I just pictured them being the "image" of flames, not actual hot flames. Like... She wasn't setting the diner on fire again sitting in the booth.

[tylergfoster]

There's also the contradiction in that Callie was able to hug Egon at the end of Afterlife, so maybe it didn't make sense that they couldn't hold hands in-universe?

Makes sense -- I think the fire thing is a bit of a stretch given the flames are obviously ghost flames, so shouldn't it be worse if Phoebe becomes one? Too bad they didn't think of that during the writing stage. Or maybe there was a built-in explanation, where you cross back through the dimension of the living as you move on.

[Kingpin]

Oh, yeah... maybe! I think in my head, I just pictured them being the "image" of flames, not actual hot flames. Like... She wasn't setting the diner on fire again sitting in the booth.

I think she was leaving light scorch/smoking marks on the chess pieces as she played across the board from Phoebe, but I'd have to re-watch it to be sure.

[joezlo]

-shrugs-

Being able to hold Melody's hand VS Callie being able to hug Egon can always be explained away via pseudo science and paranormal magic. (Egon being able to vindicate himself and hug his daughter was obviously part of his unfinished business - Melody's situ had nothing to do with hugging)

The real question is did the scenes make sense in the bigger picture of the film or not I suppose.

[SpaceBallz]

I feel dumb for suggesting this but 'Egon's ghost wasn't on fire so it was ok for a hug with a human' could be the reason?