Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 13th, 2023, 9:55 pm
by One time
The Hasbro PP comes with Alice frame attachments but they are incorrect or incomplete as the top of the pack touches the frame.
What materials do we need to buy in a hardware store to complete the set and make the attachment screen accurate (on a Rothco).
Anyone have pictures of the “missing” items?
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 15th, 2023, 1:18 pm
by tobycj
Have a look at The Ghostbusters Reference Library website, there's pics of the screen used packs in there that'll help.
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 15th, 2023, 2:19 pm
by UEF
Didn’t touch the frame (Rothco LC1) when I fitted it. Wouldn’t the foam come between them anyway?
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 15th, 2023, 7:03 pm
by kman
That doesn't sound right. Got pics of your pack to show what you mean?
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Posted: January 17th, 2023, 6:44 am
by gamera1968
I'm also curious. Some of the 'busters in my group (Ecto Force FL) have spacers on the top and bottom of the ALICE frame.
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 17th, 2023, 7:53 am
by Bison256
If I recall the first movie cut up hockey pucks and used them as spacers.
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 17th, 2023, 10:00 am
by tobycj
Bison256 wrote: ↑January 17th, 2023, 7:53 am If I recall the first movie cut up hockey pucks and used them as spacers.
The dimensions of them don't seem to be quite right for hockey pucks, seems more likely they were wood, or something else undetermined. Hockey pucks are an easy stand in though!
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Bison256 wrote: ↑January 17th, 2023, 7:53 am If I recall the first movie cut up hockey pucks and used them as spacers.
The dimensions of them don't seem to be quite right for hockey pucks, seems more likely they were wood, or something else undetermined. Hockey pucks are an easy stand in though!
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 17th, 2023, 4:08 pm
by dantonvfx
Someone on the Haslab Pack posted a quick mode solving this. I wonder if we can find a instructed way to have a spacer on the top part, and what type of spacer would be. I'm sure etsy will make lots of money with this
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 17th, 2023, 5:32 pm
by TobinsGuide
Adding or lengthening spacers might not be the best thing with a plastic motherboard as you're introducing strain with no functional purpose.
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 17th, 2023, 7:15 pm
by Bison256
TobinsGuide wrote: ↑January 17th, 2023, 5:32 pm Adding or lengthening spacers might not be the best thing with a plastic motherboard as you're introducing strain with no functional purpose.
So your saying the motherboard would need to be replaced?
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
TobinsGuide wrote: ↑January 17th, 2023, 5:32 pm Adding or lengthening spacers might not be the best thing with a plastic motherboard as you're introducing strain with no functional purpose.
So your saying the motherboard would need to be replaced?
If it breaks, definitely.
My point is that the spacers aren't there to achieve a certain look. They're there for stability.
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 18th, 2023, 2:32 pm
by One time
Look on any videos, Savage, etc. Even on my channel.
The top of the Alice frame touches the pack. I padded the pack motherboard out with black electrical tape to prevent scratches. (Where the Alice frame touches the pack).
The Hasbro clamps (used on the upper section of the pack) have ALOT of vertical space. It would be easy to insert spacers (and longer screws). I'm just looking for the specific measurements of bolts to use.
This is the cleanest solution so far. too bad he didn’t release stl files for it I would love to print one off
I ordered one of these, and it should be delivered today. If it works as good as it looks in the video, I'll order another one for my second pack as well.
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Posted: January 20th, 2023, 1:52 pm
by dhenley
Here's some nice reference for accurate pack mounting:
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Posted: January 20th, 2023, 3:20 pm
by cristovalc
I bought a bunch of steal spacers from my hardware store that fit the bill. I had to buy a few sizes and stack them inside each other for strength on my heavy pack, but you may not need to do this on the Haslab?
Use them with the larger diameter washers (sorry I don't have the exact size of those on me). You can see an example from Adam Savages photo archive of the Pheobe pack, which are the same as the implementation on the GB2 packs.
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 20th, 2023, 3:24 pm
by One time
cristovalc wrote: ↑January 20th, 2023, 3:20 pm I bought a bunch of steal spacers from my hardware store that fit the bill. I had to buy a few sizes and stack them inside each other for strength on my heavy pack, but you may not need to do this on the Haslab?
Use them with the larger diameter washers (sorry I don't have the exact size of those on me). You can see an example from Adam Savages photo archive of the Pheobe pack, which are the same as the implementation on the GB2 packs.
I don't know. Chris Bosh Props on youtube seems to have the ultimate answer on getting the correct spacing. He has a 3D printed Hasbro type spacer and a 3D printed GB1 type spacer. Check out his channel. To me this seems to be the ultimate fix, requiring just 1 3D printed spacer and 2x new bolts that are M6x25
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 20th, 2023, 3:36 pm
by cristovalc
Oh yeah, if all you were looking for was correct spacing I ain't gonna go against Chris Bosh, but it's not screen accurate to either film in looks.
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 20th, 2023, 4:07 pm
by trekgod3
Use the spacers and bolts from a TV mounting kit. They're metric and will fit
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Posted: January 20th, 2023, 8:39 pm
by blissj
I was a little more aggressive with the spacers. I mocked up and replaced all the mounting brackets that come with the pack. My goal was to have something with as much of a screen accurate feel as I could get but still use all seven of the existing mounting points without any permanent modifications. The bottom blocks and top "puck" are to scale based on the measurements I've seen in other threads. Let me know what you think.
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 10:26 am
by jonogunn
jonogunn wrote: ↑January 20th, 2023, 12:35 pm Someone else uploaded an their own STL file of this! Print away boys!
Re: Hasbro Proton Pack, which additional spacers do we need for screen accuracy?
Posted: January 23rd, 2023, 9:27 pm
by dhenley
I commend Hasbro for making this pack, but it's odd to me that they would go through all the trouble to include the alice frame attachment hardware and get it SO wrong.
My guess is that they were given a requirement that the frame be attachable without drilling new holes in the alice frame, but all we end up with is a situation where discerning fans (like the ones that go through the trouble of adding the LC1 frame), have to drill or otherwise modify their expensive proton pack, as the above demonstrated 3d printed spacer options, while appreciated, are a poor looking solution.
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Posted: January 24th, 2023, 10:41 am
by One time
Would someone be able to buy this and ship it to me in Europe? The seller does not ship international.
