Discuss the upcoming movie to be released in 2020 and directed by Jason Reitman.
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By mrmichaelt
#4961034
I think it would be conducive to make a thread about the deleted scenes. So if anyone remembers all those trailers, TV spots, online spots, and clips that didn't make it into the movie in theaters or you found interviews where the cast and crew lists a deleted scene, this is the place to post them. I will try to keep a 'master list' handy in this original post.

--What we know--

1. The assembly cut was 3 hours. The theatrical cut is close to 2 hours. The home release will have a "few deleted scenes."
Source: Collider Interviews 11/24/2021
Jason: "The first cut was easily over three hours and and now we're down to I think an hour, 56 with credits so it's it's way more slim."/"Yeah, that's the assembly cut."

--Scenes in previews or B-roll we now know are deleted material--

1. Man in hardware store from trailer 1, Mini-Pufts on shelf
Source: B-roll taken from press site, 6:15 mark

2. Close up of eviction notice from trailer 1

3. Shot of lower halves as they exit the apartment with their luggage in trailer 1

4. Wisp that shoots out of mine to teens is green in trailer 1

5. When Grooberson looks at Trap, mist is green in trailer

6. Phoebe soldering in trailer 2

7. Doritos shot at Phoebe during class

8. Sheriff's office, officer stands during an earthquake

9. Phoebe wearing Proton Pack in barley field

10. Restaurant table slimed?

11. Trevor working on Ecto engine, Phoebe strolls by "You went with the station wagon?"/Trevor, "It's the only one that had an engine"

12. Podcast after gunner seat is accidentally activated "I love this car!"

13. Skeletal animal ghost, seen at Universal Studios Halloween Horror Nights 2019 Orlando
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https://twitter.com/SunshineFrights/sta ... 3433341952
https://twitter.com/Liverstealer/status ... 6372900865
STATUS: Questionable

14. Winston's Z logo/business card in the end tag?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2qM1YGJ-U0 ... e1vy11m5lj

15. Tobin's Spirit Guide cover
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2w7k1lpStX/

16. The famous photo (from trailer 2) of the four guys with Egon w/cigarette

17. Callie shows Gary the kitchen???

18. Alternate angles of Miner Ghost

19. (Alternate take) Grooberson talks to Vinz in Walmart with a "Hey, budd--" then roar but in the movie it's "Hey--" then roar.

20. (Alternate take) Janine says "I wouldn't say nothing" (in movie, left a sizeable debt)

21. (Alternate take) Muncher in differing positions between trailers when bins across from Empress shot.

22. (Alternate take) In Trailer #1 Phoebe opens the floor puzzle with left hand, in Trailer #2 with her right hand

--Digital erasures/additions/changes in Trailers/Movie--

1. Summerville water tower, "Summerville" added later

2. Wisp that shoots out of mine shaft, green to orange

3. Grooberson holding up Trap, green to regular puff

4. Proton Stream colors during Muncher chase

5. P.K.E. Meter removed when Phoebe finds trap in floor space

6. RTV removed during Muncher chase

7. "Empress" removed from signage by Trailer #3

8. Gozer's eyes changed from red to black, Olivia suggested more spikes to costume
Source: Crossrip #743
After 36:47 mark, Arjen Tuiten, "I did give her red eyes actually and surprised to see i post production they turned them black for some reason."
After 37:58 mark, Arjen Tuiten, "The spikes were actually something that Olivia came up with. She said, 'Oh it would kind of nice if we had some little bit more spikes to tie in with the Terror Dog.' And I liked that a lot and gives her a sense of danger as well.

9. Muncher is erased where he is at the hydrant in Trailer #1

--Confirmed Deleted Scenes--

1. Phoebe running in a field with the Proton Pack on, turning corn into popcorn with it
Source: Collider Interviews YT 11/15/2021, 5:19 mark
Mckenna "My hardest scene was one that got cut out as well. Yeah, there was a whole bit where I took the Proton Pack out into a field and so that was like an entire day of just lugging this huge thing. I had like red marks all up and down my shoulders afterwards like my shoulders were raw from it rubbing because they were like doing this light pack and and I was like 'no, it looks better with the heavy pack' and it was just me like running through this field with this thing on for and the acting like doing that is so hard it's just 'Ah.' and he's like be louder. 'Ah! Oh!' It was really difficult. There was like bugs all over but it was still like the coolest.
Source: Polygon 11/21/2021
Jason "I’m not sure if that’s because I had a daughter, but I just saw her with a proton pack. Originally she was in a field of corn. She fired into the corn and the corn popped up into popcorn, she ate the popcorn and smiled. That was it."
Source: Yes Have Some 11/25/2021
Jason: "The image I always had was brings it out into a row of corn, fires it into the corn, the corn becomes popcorn, flies in the air and she catches it and she eats it like that was the image and we actually tried to shoot that. We we didn't quite pull it off and that's why it's not in the movie but but when I talked to Gil about it and Gil and I had been writing together and I really trust Gil as a storyteller and Gil's also an animator who who made Monster House and and Poltergeist and you know just has a sense of science fiction and horror that you know that isn't just not part of what I've done."
Source: B-roll taken from press site, 9:44 mark
Source: Ghostbusters News/Art and Making Of The Movie

2. Room Stuff
Source: Collider Interviews YouTube 2:25-2:32 mark 11/15/2021
Mckenna Grace says: "There was a whole like plot point that was like room stuff and it's really cool but it ended up working out so well."

3. A whole plot point was changed
Source: Collider Interviews YouTube 3:11-3:17 mark 11/15/2021
Mckenna Grace says: "Yeah, there was like a whole plot point that that's different."

4. Longer version of Trevor and Celeste leaving work to hang with her friends
Collider Interviews YouTube 4:13-4:51 mark 11/15/2021
Finn Wolfhard says: "I'd say the most complicated is actually a shot that wasn't in the movie, it's like this Boogie Nights one take shot that actually makes the movie like longer. It's a really cool but it's like-it doesn't-there's a scene where like Celeste O'Connor's character Lucky asked me to go hang out with her firends and I'm cleaning and then I take off my apron and I go and I get in the car. with them. That was like a way longer scene. It was like she's like 'You coming with?' I'm like 'Yeah' and I see her walk out of the door and then I follow her to the window and I see her and I follow her and uh it's like a one take and I take off all my stuff and I run out the door then I jump in to the cars-the car is moving as the car is moving."

5. Podcast eating ectoplasm
EW YouTube 2:35 mark 11/19/2021
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qRPxkg0JUY
Logan Kim says, "I ate ectoplasm. That was an experience. Although it was disgusted, no taste, eww. It was all slimy in my mouth. I still had a very good time enjoying it with my pudding."
2:53-2:55
Jason Reitman says, "I know, it was cut out of the film, too. That's the real problem."

6. Slimed waitress in Chinese restaurant
Source: B-roll taken from press site, 7:00 mark

7. Grooberson tells Podcast and Phoebe in classroom, a movie about the Ghostbusters was made in the 90s
Source: B-roll taken from press site, 7:30 mark

8. More of Zuul attacking Egon in the chair.
Source: Crossrip #743
After 40:17 mark, Arjen Tuiten, "Unfortunately, the cut is so fast, we don't see quite what they are. Because what we shot was quite violent actually. Grabbing him and basically that's it. That's the end of Egon."

9. Ray insulting Gozer using Hawaiian god Pele
Source: Vanity Fair
"While Hudson prepared to take his shot, Reitman encouraged Aykroyd to join in the verbal jabs. "For Stantz, I feel like your insults would be about her actual cosmic properties," the director said. Akyroyd nodded, agreeing that Gozer might feel some insecurity about rival deities. "Hawaiians have better gods than you!" he shouted. "Pele could kick your ass!""

10. When Phoebe and Podcast duck in the Foundry, they shout "Incoming!"
Source: YHS
(1:01:50-1:02:14) "And I remember there's once where the kids were ducking behind a uh-right in the scene where they the Muncher starts firing the stuff at them at the very beginning, it's like bullets. Okay, right tight and the kids are ducking behind it and they were saying like "Get down!" and they're trying all these other things and and they're just like 'it doesn't sound right' and I'm like well I go 'in the infantry' and I'm like oh (shit)."
(1:02:23-1:02:33) When things are coming at you, the universal scream is "Incoming!" and he's and he's like 'that's it. Okay, let's try it: incoming. You got it?' Did I make a line?
(1:02:43) It got cut.
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By robbritton
#4961133
I don't remember seeing the shots of the earthquakes affecting the police station and hardware store in the final cut, but I could have dozed off!

EDIT: On a rewatch they come after Gozer is resurrected, so don't mind me!
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By joezlo
#4961160
With all the extra time Jason mentioned they had to refine - I hope they planned a supercut for the home release - or even when the VOD starts after (my assumption) Thanksgiving weekend.

I still preferer the extended ATC cut to the theatrical minus a joke change or two, plot is more cohesive.
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By groschopf
#4961169
mrmichaelt wrote: November 21st, 2021, 9:43 pm 1. Phoebe running in a field with the Proton Pack on
Source: Collider Interviews YT 11/15/2021, 5:19 mark
Mckenna "My hardest scene was one that got cut out as well. Yeah, there was a whole bit where I took the Proton Pack out into a field and so that was like an entire day of just lugging this huge thing. I had like red marks all up and down my shoulders afterwards like my shoulders were raw from it rubbing because they were like doing this light pack and and I was like 'no, it looks better with the heavy pack' and it was just me like running through this field with this thing on for and the acting like doing that is so hard it's just 'Ah.' and he's like be louder. 'Ah! Oh!' It was really difficult. There was like bugs all over but it was still like the coolest.
Tangental to that or part of the same scene... Phoebe firing the wand and turning corn into popcorn, as Jason Reitman indicated:

"Originally she was in a field of corn. She fired into the corn and the corn popped up into popcorn, she ate the popcorn and smiled. That was it."

Remember the scene where Callie comes into Phoebe's room while she's watching the old Ghostbusters ad? It's after Phoebe discovers the lab. Callie comments on what Phoebe is inexplicably eating... popcorn.

I'm willing to bet that was shot and cut from the theatrical release for time since they already had the test fire scene with Podcast. I'm also willing to bet Callie would leave the lab through the staircase (which is evocative of the secret staircase in the Shandor Building) that's down in the lab during the initial sweep of it when Phoebe discovers the space.

If the Clue game is any guide, there's a staircase that leaves the lab and comes out in a field. Phoebe would have climbed the staircase, stood in the field in that tiny bit of footage we saw that was unused, fired, turned corn into popcorn, and then cut to the scene where she has a bowl of popcorn.

That's probably why there was a Pop Secret tie-in as well.
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By gerv
#4961170
Roamer wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 10:46 am I thought the ghost/ghoul in the store was the same taxi driver ghost/ghoul from the original movie? In fact, I still think it is. Was disappointed to see that it wasn't in the final cut.
Eh? It was in the final version.
By Bison256
#4961175
I suspect there's a cut scene that takes place in the kitchen. In Adam Savage's set visit they point out the gb2 toaster. In the film when podcast asks Phoebe what she had for breakfast she say toast. This suggest there's a scene between Callie and Phoebe in the kitchen.
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By One time
#4961180
I have this nagging feeling that the Reitman's, have shot 20 years of material that will be drip fed to us over the years with HE upon HE release. I hope I'm wrong and it's just a massive directors cut with a whole lot of material added.
The OG GB introduction was way out of left field.
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I just need more OG GB's scenes.
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By Fritz
#4961193
groschopf wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 1:54 pm
"Originally she was in a field of corn. She fired into the corn and the corn popped up into popcorn, she ate the popcorn and smiled. That was it."
Now see, that would be an awesome Easter Egg, intended or not. An alternate timeline version of her grandfather discovered that trick back in the 80's
By joezlo
#4961203
One time wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 2:53 pm I have this nagging feeling that the Reitman's, have shot 20 years of material that will be drip fed to us over the years with HE upon HE release. I hope I'm wrong and it's just a massive directors cut with a whole lot of material added.
The OG GB introduction was way out of left field.
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I just need more OG GB's scenes.
I didn't need more OGB scenes. I just needed their entrance to make more sense - even if they came out of a taxi, drove up or something - it didn't feel right.
By JonXCTrack
#4961216
We know that they made a Stop sign covered in slime with a large bite mark taken out of it. I don't remember seeing it at any point in the movie.
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By zeta otaku
#4961217
JonXCTrack wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 5:27 pm We know that they made a Stop sign covered in slime with a large bite mark taken out of it. I don't remember seeing it at any point in the movie.
While it wasn't COVERED in slime, you do see the stop sign with the bite in it when Trevor, Phoebe and Podcast are looking for Muncher in town. It's just before they spot him gnawing on a fire hydrant.
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By An Invisible Bed
#4961245
I was definitely disappointed and noticed that the Dorito shot wasn't in the final movie, it's too bad as it was funny.

I hate to think of there being any deleted scenes, I would have been happy as a clam watching the movie for another 30 minutes.
By TheManEatingToaster
#4961270
zeta otaku wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 5:31 pm
JonXCTrack wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 5:27 pm We know that they made a Stop sign covered in slime with a large bite mark taken out of it. I don't remember seeing it at any point in the movie.
While it wasn't COVERED in slime, you do see the stop sign with the bite in it when Trevor, Phoebe and Podcast are looking for Muncher in town. It's just before they spot him gnawing on a fire hydrant.
I also remember seeing a picture of a restaurant table covered in Ectoplasm, it wasn't in the movie but I think it was outside of Spinners.
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By Ecto24601
#4961280
Trevor working on Ecto engine, Phoebe strolls by "You went with the station wagon?" - "It's the only one that had an engine"

Podcast after gunner seat is accidentally activated "I love this car!"
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By Kingpin
#4961288
mrmichaelt wrote: November 22nd, 2021, 11:08 pm Hmm, was that shot of Phoebe soldering in the movie?
It wasn't.

Between that clip, and photos of the PKE prop at the The Hollywood Museum exhibit, it looks like there was a sequence where the PKE gets badly broken, and Phoebe has to repair it.

I initially thought it happened when
Callie was possessed
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, but it doesn't seem damaged when Phoebe and the others
rush out of the farm house after Callie
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By mrmichaelt
#4961289
Kingpin wrote: November 23rd, 2021, 4:48 am It wasn't.

Between that clip, and photos of the PKE prop at the The Hollywood Museum exhibit, it looks like there was a sequence where the PKE gets badly broken, and Phoebe has to repair it.
In that shot, she is wearing her outfit she wears from the Foundry scene when she first at the glass bottles to when she argues with Callie. So it might take place after the argument and works on it on her room.
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By mrmichaelt
#4961422
JonXCTrack wrote: November 23rd, 2021, 9:50 pm Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of Moose Skeleton ghost? They showed it on the Universal Studios Ghostbusters event a couple of years ago.
Yeah, still trying to track the OP about it. But there's this newer post about it.
viewtopic.php?p=4945559#p4945559

EDIT: Here it is
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From Liverstealer! 10/4/2019

And I suppose, I don't think we saw Winston's Z logo/business card in the end tag?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2qM1YGJ-U0 ... e1vy11m5lj

Or the Tobin's Spirit Guide cover
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2w7k1lpStX/
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By Chicken, He Clucked
#4961426
Maybe the “Moose Spirit” as I hope it comes to be called, even though I think it has a specific name I’m too lazy to look up, is one of those ideas Jason talks about backing away from and he mentioned the challenges of getting something to look scary and maybe this prop just didn’t look right. But… it would’ve been cool to feature in the montage sequence along with bug eye and add flavour to the rural setting. I hope we learn more in time, and with the release of the concept art book maybe.

Amazing work with this thread, mrmichaelt.
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By An Invisible Bed
#4961443
Chicken, He Clucked wrote: November 24th, 2021, 12:14 am Maybe the “Moose Spirit” as I hope it comes to be called, even though I think it has a specific name I’m too lazy to look up, is one of those ideas Jason talks about backing away from and he mentioned the challenges of getting something to look scary and maybe this prop just didn’t look right. But… it would’ve been cool to feature in the montage sequence along with bug eye and add flavour to the rural setting. I hope we learn more in time, and with the release of the concept art book maybe.

Amazing work with this thread, mrmichaelt.
If it's one thing I do feel like Afterlife is lacking it's ironically... ghosts.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only new ghosts we see are Muncher, the old miner and the eyeball thing, that's it?

The movie desperately needed an equivalent to the librarian ghost.
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By SpaceBallz
#4961447
What was with all the artwork of Muncher with the Ecto-1 plate in its stomach? Another cut scene?
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By SpaceCoastGBs
#4961450
Regarding the “moose” ghost - it’s BS. That character in the haunted house was just a reused Wendigo from Universal’s costume department, used as filler. Since those people on Twitter didn’t recognize it as a GB ghost, they assumed it’s from the new movie. Here it is in a photo from a prior year.

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By Ecto24601
#4961540
The miner memorial was briefly seen, overflowing with ectoplasm.

The famous photo (from trailer 2) of the four guys with cigarette Egon was not in the movie. I guess it belonged to cut parts of Janine's first scene.
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By Alphagaia
#4961545
mrmichaelt wrote: November 25th, 2021, 12:54 am
Ecto24601 wrote: November 25th, 2021, 12:50 am The miner memorial was briefly seen, overflowing with ectoplasm.
Thanks. Was it in the Muncher chase, the ghost montage, some other scene?
The ghost montage showed it overflowing.
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By Chicken, He Clucked
#4961549
Moose ghost double-twist?

I don't think these are the same model... I could be wrong:

(Tongue-in-cheek, they are different but I don't think this photo is enough evidence of it being a cut ghost. We'll presumably get a glimpse of it in the upcoming artbook if it was)

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